Comments on: AppleTV, AirTunes And Airfoil 3 http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/ All Blown Up Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:58:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Arthur http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1258 Arthur Fri, 23 May 2008 11:48:57 +0000 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/#comment-1258 Hi there, You say that "Apple TV Can Receive Information From The Sender". Then, could you add Growl support to Airfoil, so that the song name shows up on the receiver's screen? There are at least to ways you can do it: - implement Growl in the sender app, install Growl on both machine, and use Growl's network notification capability - implement Growl in the receiver app, install Growl on the receiver machine only, send information through Airfoil's own channel, and let Airfoil's receiver show up the info using Growl's local notification I hacked up a Airtunes-like thing in 2006, using Apple's AUlab and a couple a freewares, and did use the first option (Growl's network notification) to achieve the information feature. It worked fine, but not so user-friendly, so i'm glad you made Airfoil 3, i think i'll buy it (much better women acceptance factor than my hack!). It shouldn't be that difficult: one day, i asked freeware ByteController's developper to add Growl support to his app, and got the feature a few days later! Thanks in advance, mates! (mail: take my website address and replace the first dot with @) Hi there,

You say that “Apple TV Can Receive Information From The Sender”. Then, could you add Growl support to Airfoil, so that the song name shows up on the receiver’s screen?

There are at least to ways you can do it:
- implement Growl in the sender app, install Growl on both machine, and use Growl’s network notification capability
- implement Growl in the receiver app, install Growl on the receiver machine only, send information through Airfoil’s own channel, and let Airfoil’s receiver show up the info using Growl’s local notification

I hacked up a Airtunes-like thing in 2006, using Apple’s AUlab and a couple a freewares, and did use the first option (Growl’s network notification) to achieve the information feature. It worked fine, but not so user-friendly, so i’m glad you made Airfoil 3, i think i’ll buy it (much better women acceptance factor than my hack!).

It shouldn’t be that difficult: one day, i asked freeware ByteController’s developper to add Growl support to his app, and got the feature a few days later!

Thanks in advance, mates!
(mail: take my website address and replace the first dot with @)

]]> By: Peter http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1231 Peter Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:19:09 +0000 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/#comment-1231 I answered my own question: you can indeed use the airtunes capabilities of Apple TV to stream from itunes on any mac directly out of the Audio (analog) out ports on the Apple TV to a amplifier in my case (bypassing use of the TV) . I have not tried with the optical audio out, but this is a pretty cool feature as it incorporates yet another room into my airtunes universe. -Peter I answered my own question: you can indeed use the airtunes capabilities of Apple TV to stream from itunes on any mac directly out of the Audio (analog) out ports on the Apple TV to a amplifier in my case (bypassing use of the TV) . I have not tried with the optical audio out, but this is a pretty cool feature as it incorporates yet another room into my airtunes universe.

-Peter

]]> By: Peter http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1230 Peter Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:59:31 +0000 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/#comment-1230 Can the Airtunes capability on Apple TV stream audio out of the optical or analog audio ports while the TV (in my case connected via HDMI) is turned off? Thx in advance, Peter Can the Airtunes capability on Apple TV stream audio out of the optical or analog audio ports while the TV (in my case connected via HDMI) is turned off?

Thx in advance,
Peter

]]> By: rbshen http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/comment-page-1/#comment-58 rbshen Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:18:54 +0000 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/#comment-58 How do you get the apple tv name shown in the bottom of the itunes like airport express? I don't have it even I tuned on airtunes in apple tv's settings. How do you get the apple tv name shown in the bottom of the itunes like airport express? I don’t have it even I tuned on airtunes in apple tv’s settings.

]]> By: Paul http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/comment-page-1/#comment-57 Paul Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:03:54 +0000 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/#comment-57 <b>t-minus:</b> I haven't tested, but I've seen other reports that standard-def still works fine. <b>Carlo:</b> If you're not getting sync between your Mac and ATV, with iTunes, something is wrong - you should talk to Apple. Those should (and do, for all the tests we've run) sync fine, just like AirPort Express units do. <b>dark magik:</b> Thanks, I guess...I have no idea what a "cloud should be free" principle is. We, and most other developers, work hard on our software - if you use it, you should pay for it. If you don't, we can't stay in business. <b>dal20402:</b> Free new features for you, if you have v3 8). <b>Matthew:</b> We're working on Airfoil for Windows too, yes. <b>Peter:</b> Unfortunately, the Apple TV isn't built to receive streamed video the way it is streamed audio. There's no AirFlicks, at least not now. <b>Dove:</b> That's something we'll be considering past 3.1. Version 3.1 is just about getting Apple TV supported for streaming. <b>Trevor:</b> Unfortunately, iTunes itself precludes this, as it will only speak to authenticated audio devices. That's not something we can get around. You can, however, set iTunes as your source in Airfoil. Have iTunes play to the Computer output, and let Airfoil send to both AirPort Express units and Airfoil Speakers. t-minus: I haven’t tested, but I’ve seen other reports that standard-def still works fine.

Carlo: If you’re not getting sync between your Mac and ATV, with iTunes, something is wrong – you should talk to Apple. Those should (and do, for all the tests we’ve run) sync fine, just like AirPort Express units do.

dark magik: Thanks, I guess…I have no idea what a “cloud should be free” principle is. We, and most other developers, work hard on our software – if you use it, you should pay for it. If you don’t, we can’t stay in business.

dal20402: Free new features for you, if you have v3 8).

Matthew: We’re working on Airfoil for Windows too, yes.

Peter: Unfortunately, the Apple TV isn’t built to receive streamed video the way it is streamed audio. There’s no AirFlicks, at least not now.

Dove: That’s something we’ll be considering past 3.1. Version 3.1 is just about getting Apple TV supported for streaming.

Trevor: Unfortunately, iTunes itself precludes this, as it will only speak to authenticated audio devices. That’s not something we can get around. You can, however, set iTunes as your source in Airfoil. Have iTunes play to the Computer output, and let Airfoil send to both AirPort Express units and Airfoil Speakers.

]]> By: Trevor Fancher http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/comment-page-1/#comment-56 Trevor Fancher Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:46:25 +0000 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/#comment-56 One other nice feature would be for the Airfoil Speakers app to cause the computer it is running on to show up in the speakers pop-up menu in iTunes. This would allow me to run Airfoil Speakers on my desktop and listen to iTunes over my desktop speakers from my friend's laptop which doesn't have Airfoil installed. Is this possible currently and I am just not doing something right? One other nice feature would be for the Airfoil Speakers app to cause the computer it is running on to show up in the speakers pop-up menu in iTunes. This would allow me to run Airfoil Speakers on my desktop and listen to iTunes over my desktop speakers from my friend’s laptop which doesn’t have Airfoil installed.

Is this possible currently and I am just not doing something right?

]]> By: Dove http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/comment-page-1/#comment-55 Dove Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:04:33 +0000 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/#comment-55 It would be interesting if AirTunes could pick up on the remote control info coming back from the Apple TV and use it to run applescripts or whatever to control non-iTunes playback sources. It would be interesting if AirTunes could pick up on the remote control info coming back from the Apple TV and use it to run applescripts or whatever to control non-iTunes playback sources.

]]> By: Peter http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/comment-page-1/#comment-54 Peter Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:02:56 +0000 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/#comment-54 I think the killer app here is going to be an extension of airfoil that lets me stream not just my FLAC audio from VLC to AppleTV, but also HD video! Or maybe what I need is VLC on on the AppleTV, because I really do hate iTunes :) Anyway great work! I recently purchased AirFoil and I'm very pleased with it, look forward to the update. I think the killer app here is going to be an extension of airfoil that lets me stream not just my FLAC audio from VLC to AppleTV, but also HD video! Or maybe what I need is VLC on on the AppleTV, because I really do hate iTunes :)

Anyway great work! I recently purchased AirFoil and I’m very pleased with it, look forward to the update.

]]> By: Matthew http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Matthew Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:59:38 +0000 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/#comment-52 Will there be an update for the windows version too? Will there be an update for the windows version too?

]]> By: ExitToShell http://rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/comment-page-1/#comment-51 ExitToShell Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:17:02 +0000 http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2008/02/12/appletv-airtunes-and-airfoil-3/#comment-51 This new feature removes a requirement to "hack" the AppleTV to play non-supported audio formats, since you can set that up on a Mac and blast the audio in agnostic format to AppleTV (and Airport Express units) around your home/office. Just in case someone wanted to use a format created by two college kids to broadcast music on their own internet radio station hosted on their schools intranet. This could also streamline the family room/media room since you don't need an Airport Express stuck in an outlet with long cables snaking around the baseboards to get to your 5.1 speakers. Note that AppleTV can now do true 5.1 audio so it all fits together with one thin little gray slab with an Apple logo on top (and not Microsoft, or any random hardware ODM). This new feature removes a requirement to “hack” the AppleTV to play non-supported audio formats, since you can set that up on a Mac and blast the audio in agnostic format to AppleTV (and Airport Express units) around your home/office.

Just in case someone wanted to use a format created by two college kids to broadcast music on their own internet radio station hosted on their schools intranet.

This could also streamline the family room/media room since you don’t need an Airport Express stuck in an outlet with long cables snaking around the baseboards to get to your 5.1 speakers. Note that AppleTV can now do true 5.1 audio so it all fits together with one thin little gray slab with an Apple logo on top (and not Microsoft, or any random hardware ODM).

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